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BBC World Service – World Business Report, EU Leaders Try to Thrash Out Greece Deal

BBC World Service – World Business Report, EU Leaders Try to Thrash Out Greece Deal.

Hey, Germany: You Got a Bailout, Too

Hey, Germany: You Got a Bailout, Too


MAY 23, 2012 7:00 PM EDT

By The Editors

In the millions of words written about Europe’s debt crisis, Germany is typically cast as the responsible adult and Greece as the profligate child. Prudent Germany, the narrative goes, is loath to bail out freeloading Greece, which borrowed more than it could afford and now must suffer the consequences.

Would it surprise you to know that Europe’s taxpayers have provided as much financial support to Germany as they have to Greece? An examination of European money flows and central-bank balance sheets suggests this is so.

Let’s begin with the observation that irresponsible borrowers can’t exist without irresponsible lenders. Germany’s banks were Greece’s enablers. Thanks partly to lax regulation, German banks built up precarious exposures to Europe’s peripheral countries in the years before the crisis. By December 2009, according to the Bank for International Settlements, German banks had amassed claims of $704 billion on Greece, Ireland, Italy, Portugal and Spain, much more than the German banks’ aggregate capital. In other words, they lent more than they could afford.

When the European Union and the European Central Bank stepped in to bail out the struggling countries, they made it possible for German banks to bring their money home. As a result, they bailed out Germany’s banks as well as the taxpayers who might otherwise have had to support those banks if the loans weren’t repaid. Unlike much of the aid provided to Greece, the support to Germany’s banks happened automatically, as a function of the currency union’s structure.


Here’s how it worked. When German banks pulled money out of Greece, the other national central banks of the euro area collectively offset the outflow with loans to the Greek central bank. These loans appeared on the balance sheet of the Bundesbank, Germany’s central bank, as claims on the rest of the euro area. This mechanism, designed to keep the currency area’s accounts in balance, made it easier for the German banks to exit their positions.

Now for the tricky part: As opposed to the claims of the private banks, the Bundesbank’s claims were only partly the responsibility of Germany. If Greece reneged on its debt, the losses would be shared among all euro-area countries, according to their shareholding in the ECB. Germany’s stake would be about 28 percent. In short, over the last couple of years, much of the risk sitting on German banks’ balance sheets shifted to the taxpayers of the entire currency union.

It’s hard to quantify exactly how much Germany has benefited from its European bailout. One indicator would be the amount German banks pulled out of other euro-area countries since the crisis began. According to the BIS, they yanked $353 billion from December 2009 to the end of 2011 (the latest data available). Another would be the increase in the Bundesbank’s claims on other euro-area central banks. That amounts to 466 billion euros ($590 billion) from December 2009 through April 2012, though it would also reflect non-German depositors moving their money into German banks.

By comparison, Greece has received a total of about 340 billion euros in official loans to recapitalize its banks, replace fleeing capital, restructure its debts and help its government make ends meet. Only about 15 billion euros of that has come directly from Germany. The rest is all from the ECB, the EU and the International Monetary Fund.


Germany’s changing financial exposure has major implications for its role as a leader of Europe’s response to the crisis. Before Germany’s banks pulled back their funds, they stood to lose a ton of money if Greece left the euro. Now any losses will be shared with the taxpayers of the entire euro area — particularly France, whose banks still have a lot of outstanding loans to Greece. Perhaps this is what some German officials mean when they say that the euro area is better prepared for a Greek exit.

Ultimately, though, the cost of letting Greece go would come home to Germany. If bank runs and market turmoil forced Portugal, Spain, Italy and others out of the euro area as well, the losses could wipe out much of the capital of German banks. Not to mention the longer-term damage the euro breakup would do to the exports that drive Germany’s economy, and the potential demise of a European project designed to prevent a repeat of the horrors of two world wars.

To prevent such an outcome, with or without Greece, Germany will have to do everything it has so far refused, and more. This would include allowing the ECB to stand behind the debt of sovereigns. The euro area also needs a mechanism that would transfer money to economically troubled countries just as automatically as the region’s payment system bailed out Germany — an element economists have long said is crucial to making the euro area a workable currency union. As we have advocated, a joint unemployment insurance fund could be a first step toward such a fiscal union.

As German Chancellor Angela Merkel considers the next step in the euro crisis — one that could help the euro area return to growth or, alternatively, risk the survival of the entire currency union — she should keep in mind that her country is indebted to the euro system as much as Greece is.

ORIGINALLY  – http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2012-05-23/merkel-should-know-her-country-has-been-bailed-out-too

FROM: http://www.fliuch.org/germany-bailout/


Hey, Germany: You Got a Bailout, Too – Bloomberg : europe

The euro was built around the Bundesbank and therefore every monetary policy taken was more advantageous to Germany then to any other member state. Germany’s strength are exports and if it wasen’t for the rest of the euro area member’s imports, Germany would not be sitting in the high ground and patronising everyone. If all the countries would be exporters, I wonder who would import.

If Germany wants to keep its viability then it needs to help the other members.

There is a much deeper problem in the euro zone then simply lazy people as everyone likes to think. If it were so simple then only Greece would be in trouble.

via Hey, Germany: You Got a Bailout, Too – Bloomberg : europe.

Η πιθανή μετάβαση στη δραχμή ΔΕΝ ΑΠΑΛΛΑΣΕΙ τη χώρα από το δυσβάσταχτο χρέος της – ploumistos.com Ploumistos.com

Λανθασμένα πιστεύουν πολλοί Ελληνες ότι η μετάβαση στη δραχμή θα απαλλάξει αυτόματα τη χώρα από το δυσβάσταχτο χρέος της.

Απόδειξη ότι το χρέος της Ελλάδας όταν ανακοίνωσε πτώχευση ο Χαρίλαος Τρικούπης το πλήρωσε η κυβέρνηση Σημίτη το 1999.

Διαβάστε την σχετική είδηση από το blog «Δελτίο των 11»:

Η εξόφληση των προπολεμικών εθνικών δανείων (Αρχείο)

Ο υφυπουργός Οικονομικών Νίκος Χριστοδουλάκης , ανακοίνωσε την Τετάρτη 29/12/1999 ότι η κυβέρνηση εξόφλησε πλήρως το προπολεμικό δημόσιο χρέος, που στις 31 Δεκεμβρίου 1998 ήταν 212, 4 εκατ. δρχ , 5, 9 εκατ. λίρες Αγγλίας και 24, 8 εκατ. δολάρια ΗΠΑ. Ο υφυπουργός εξήγησε ότι η εξόφληση έγινε «επειδή η διαδικασία ένταξης της χώρας μας στην Οικονομική και Νομισματική Ενωση, θα οδηγούσε σε υψηλό κόστος για την εξυπηρέτηση των δανείων αυτών».

via Η πιθανή μετάβαση στη δραχμή ΔΕΝ ΑΠΑΛΛΑΣΕΙ τη χώρα από το δυσβάσταχτο χρέος της – ploumistos.com Ploumistos.com.

Greece Surrendered, But The Real Defeat Was For Europe

In a recent article on the Greek crisis, I argued that a much bigger game was being played out in Europe over Greece – and the name of that game was deterrence. In plain English, make the terms of any deal with any rebellious, indebted, government in Europe so tough – almost unacceptable – that nobody in their right mind would ever dare challenge the status quo ever again. And while one is at it, make sure that everybody else understands that the terms of the agreement – like the one recently foisted on the Greeks – is seen for what it is: unconditional surrender.

For that is what the Greek Prime Minister recently did. Surrender. But all this, I would insist, has a purpose. As another commentator recently pointed out, the current agreement might be very hard on the Greeks. But as Jacob Wittgenstein of the Peterson Institute in Washington went on to point out, it will “ultimately result in it being harder for Syriza-like parties to be electable” in any other European country. In the longer term, “the political spill-over from Greece” will be “pro-centrist”. Spain and Italy may have been saved from the left.

via Greece Surrendered, But The Real Defeat Was For Europe.